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Old Jul 02, 2006, 12:09 AM // 00:09   #1
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Im looking for four maybe five axe skills that give me the most Dps and make a nice combo. Is there a standard combo?

Elite included please
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Old Jul 02, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41   #2
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Eviscerate, executioners strike, penatrating blow is all i use, but its a very hefty spike. All though with dragonslash i find swords have a hell of a lot more dps, because you can cycle through your combo of skills like this every 10 seconds...give or take, but sword wise this is what i use:

Dragon slash, silverwing slash, sun and moon slash, galrath slash, standing slash, at 14 swordsman ship , the damage bonuses alone add up to 131 damage and sun and moon slash is double attack...with "for great justice" you are dishing out one hell of a lot of dps. (just a little advice )
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Old Jul 03, 2006, 06:30 AM // 06:30   #3
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tigers fury, Eviscerate, executioners strike, penatrating blow
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Old Jul 03, 2006, 07:28 AM // 07:28   #4
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Your offensive skills aren't the only thing that will affect your DPS. If your target is kiting then speed buffs, snares and knockdowns etc. are a factor - otherwise you could just have 7 or 8 attack skills.

The only strict rules for getting the most DPS out of a warrior is 15/16 mastery and sustainable IAS. The rest you should figure out for yourself. Although here is a pretty pimp build for PvP using an axe.

Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Penetrating Blow / Furious Axe
Bull's Strike
Frenzy (or Tiger's Fury if you're a pussy)
Rush / Sprint
Healing Signet
Res Signet

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Old Jul 03, 2006, 07:55 AM // 07:55   #5
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Jestah, that's a PvP build..I think he needs some stances too
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Old Jul 03, 2006, 08:07 AM // 08:07   #6
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Ah I assumed anyone taking an interest in DPS was talking for PvP - didn't notice the title. For PvE - echo mending and a lot of pointless stances works nice. Run at mobs and try to persuade them to attack you, then watch as they head straight for your backline.

Edit: or on a serious note switch to sword, get yourself a zealous upgrade and Use this:

For Great Justice
Tiger's Fury
Dragon Slash
Sun and Moon Slash

By far the best DPS there is for PvE. Don't bother with stances, tanking is a flawed concept and even when it does work it's still overkill and a waste of a character worth of damage.

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Old Jul 03, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52   #7
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I usually have Eviscerate, Executioners Strike, Penetrating Blow, and once in awhile I will take Disrupting Chop. Also I take a skill that increases my DPS like Frenzy.

If you want to do quicker damage but not as much at once then you could use Cleave, Penetrating Blow, Penetrating Chop, and a DPS skill.

If you are a PvP warrior you don't want to take to many attack skills. You'll want to leave room for a knockdown, Sprint, Healing Sig, and a Res Sig
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Old Jul 04, 2006, 07:38 PM // 19:38   #8
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grab Wing's Axe:

Tiger's Fury/Beastial Fury(clone of former)
Eviscerate
Executioner's
Penetrating Blow
Penetrating Attack(clone of above)
Disrupting Chop/Distracting Blow


Keep Tiger's/Beastial up at all time. Put 4 points into beast mastery for a 7 second IAS duration. This is wot I run for PVE as an alternative to the standard Dragon Slash + ect combo, it still leaves room for heal sig and a rez sig.
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Old Jul 05, 2006, 11:48 AM // 11:48   #9
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Im looking for four maybe five axe skills that give me the most Dps and make a nice combo. Is there a standard combo?

Elite included please
Whirling Axe, Penetrating Blow, Penetrating Chop , Executioners strike (if you really need a 4th attack..)

either that, or wait for >10 sec to get adrenaline for eviscerate, by which time your target might very well be dead
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Old Jul 05, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25   #10
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Basically for PvE there's really only 2 axe elites to consider; triple chop and eviscerate. Triple chop combined with executioner's, cyclone axe, and disrupting chop/distracting blow will give you nice damage that will hit for than one target along with an interrupt. Eviscerate combined with executioners, penetrating blow, disrupting chop/distracting blow will allow you to tear through single targets amazingly fast.

Whirling axe has the same problems as cleave. Sure the adrenaline costs are low but the mediocre extra damage isn't a good enough reason for anyone to put it in their skill bar. If you want to go this route switch to sword and use the already mentioned dragon slash combos which will provide more DPS than whirling axe/cleave. I would much rather be doing a lot of damage to a clump of enemies or slapping deep wounds on someone, especially in PvE where it won't be removed.

You definitely need an increased attack speed stance while playing a damage warrior. Frenzy is the best chioce, however for those people who are slow with the fingers and can't click their cancel stance in time before dying tiger stance works fine. The recharge is 20 seconds but with strength at 12 you'll get 9 seconds out of it which only an 11 second downtime.
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Old Jul 05, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26   #11
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either that, or wait for >10 sec to get adrenaline for eviscerate, by which time your target might very well be dead
next target please?

besides with IAS, eviscerate charges up significantly faster, and is much more powerful for boss mobs

although in all fairness, Triple Chop is quite a powerful elite. However when I run 16 axe mastery I personally find Triple Chop having a hard time outperforming Eviscerate according to my style needs (with exception of farming).

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Old Jul 06, 2006, 04:36 AM // 04:36   #12
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Here's something a bit different:
"kicking it with the henches":
1) warrior endurance (20+ sec duration)
2) cyclone axe -- war endurance + cyclone axe = the god of energy will grant you the power to apply poison
3) swift chop
4) penetrating blow
5) penetrating chop
6) apply poison (9 sec poison)
7) "i will avenge you" (6 regen)
8) heal sig / res sig (dont remember if I actually had points in tactics)

I'd say this build came in handy when straight up dmg couldn't do the job *cough* luxon/kurzick duel master quest with hench party *cough*

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Old Jul 06, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05   #13
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For pve I prefer Whirling Axe above Eviscerate; it's just quicker pressure, Eviscerate is a little bit overkill on one mob and less dps on the other ones. If you want a Deep Wound take Dismember instead.
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Old Jul 07, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27   #14
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Whirling axe has the same problems as cleave. Sure the adrenaline costs are low but the mediocre extra damage isn't a good enough reason for anyone to put it in their skill bar. ... I would much rather be doing a lot of damage to a clump of enemies or slapping deep wounds on someone, especially in PvE where it won't be removed.
I would dig up the cleave vs eviscerate chart if I wasnt lazy enough and if search wasnt disabled.. just looking at how Cleave does +31 per 4 adrenaline, Whirling 21 vs 2 adrenaline, and Eviscerate +42 vs 8..

triple chop + dismember if u really love that deep wound that much

theres a very similar thread too btw..
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Old Jul 07, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42   #15
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I might be a noob as a warrior but this works for me

Dismember -> Axe Twist

Gives deep wound for a long time + weakness for 20 secs on top.

The actual attacks are not the most damaging but the conditions more than makes up for that

Usually I take these along as well

Tripple Chop
Cyclone Axe
Distracting Blow (yeah I know no damage but for me this works the best)

EDIT: I take the first two for adrenaline (and when I play ranger secondary with apply poison), the last one to interrupt.

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Old Jul 08, 2006, 08:36 AM // 08:36   #16
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Using Whirling Axe or any other low adrenalin +damage skill is an extremely poor idea when mixed with other adrenalin skills, simply because it sucks a point of adrenalin from *each* of your adrenalin skills when you use it.

Meaning something like Whirling Axe, usable every two hits, would cause all your other high adrenalin skills to charge *reeeeeeeally* slowly as they would only gain adrenalin one hit out of two.

Low adrenalin +damage skills like Whirling Axe, Cleave and Quivering Blade really shine when mixed with energy based attacks like Power Attack as it isn't competing with other adrenalin skills for attention, allowing for constant high damage over time. Obviously, frequent energy usage demands a zealous weapon upgrade as this will generate more energy over time as long as you don't stop swinging (and aren't blinded or evaded).

One of the *major* bonuses to near constant usage of attack skills is the armor penetration bonus from Strength which doesn't add to white damage swings.

My current general all purpose PVE build:

Power Attack
Triple Chop [E]
Executioner's Strike (might replace with an interrupting attack)
Cyclone Axe
Healing Signet
"Watch Yourself"
Dolyak Signet
(Optional Slot, usually Rez Signet or Plague Touch)

It's decent, not so specialized ... good for pick up groups, lol.

Given my recent addition of Dolyak Signet as a keeper skill, I'm thinking of changing my first 4 to:

Power Attack
Desperation Blow
Cleave [E]
Cyclone Axe

or maybe:

Desperation Blow
Cleave [E]
Cyclone Axe
Tiger Stance

Mmmm, so many possibilities

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Old Jul 08, 2006, 08:39 AM // 08:39   #17
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BTW, I chose Cleave over Whirling Axe so to not drain too much adrenalin from "Watch Yourself", which I like keeping up constantly for myself and my group ... I also don't like the "If blocked" clause attached to it as 15 seconds is an awfully long time to disable a skill. For a high DPS low adrenalin skill with a drawback, I'd prefer a sword build with Whirling Blade as I couldn't care less about being dazed.
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Old Jul 17, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03   #18
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Triple Chop,Executioners Strike,Penetrating Blow,Dismember(by the time u get to dismember triple chop should b recharged)

Triple Chop~Elite Axe Attack.You deal ---- damage to target Foe and all nearby foes.
Cost~5 Mana 10 Sec Recarge

my dmg is around +30 somtin i forget the range of it so why i put the ---- there... but its useful even though u can tick of every single enemy nearby

But its like +30,+30,+18,+Deep wound Repeat
(w/deep wound)+30,+30,+18,+deep wound again...It goes slower than this however b/c it takes a lil longer for the adrenaline skills to charge.

{off topic} I type to much on a topic that doesnt need any really all i needed was the skills and i go into some idiotic explanation but i cant help it i love to type.
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Old Jul 18, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #19
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I am somewhat of and odd ball because i don't usually use and Elite
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Dismember
Axe Twist
Executioners Strike
swift chop
berserker stance
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for some reason i just don't like the Elite attack skills but if you are going to use and Elite i wood go with Triple chop in steed of berserker stance to build up adrenaline but i find i can do some decent damage without and Elite attack

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Old Jul 18, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09   #20
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you do realise that eviscerate is basically dismember but with extra damage thrown in free right...?
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